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Reply #90 - Oct 17^th, 2013 at 8:16pm

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I defy you to look at what I've advocated for here and on my blog and think that I believe everything has to be deep and straightforward. That's ridiculous and dishonest.

I just don't get any pleasure out of watching bad movies for the express purpose of mocking them. It's mean, unsporting, and takes up valuable time when you could be seeing something good. It's one thing if there's something the filmmakers do really well that offsets the problems, but screw just watching movies to feel superior.

And while I never loved MST3K, at least back then they were uncovering odd movies, creating their own characters, and making unique jokes. Now they're just piling onto movies that everyone already makes fun of. Maybe they weren't always parasites, but it's what they seem to have become.

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Reply #91 - Oct 17^th, 2013 at 10:02pm

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Jay Seaver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

I defy you to look at what I've advocated for here and on my blog and think that I believe everything has to be deep and straightforward. That's ridiculous and dishonest.

I just don't get any pleasure out of watching bad movies for the express purpose of mocking them. It's mean, unsporting, and takes up valuable time when you could be seeing something good. It's one thing if there's something the filmmakers do really well that offsets the problems, but screw just watching movies to feel superior.

And while I never loved MST3K, at least back then they were uncovering odd movies, creating their own characters, and making unique jokes. Now they're just piling onto movies that everyone already makes fun of. Maybe they weren't always parasites, but it's what they seem to have become.

Actually one of the things about Rifftrax is they do not just attack schlock films of the past or present. They'll also have fun with films well regarded by critics & fans like The Avengers, Harry Potter, Inception.
All films I liked and all riffs I've liked too.

Let's face it, if we only showed films that 100% of the audience liked we'd probably end up with 24hrs of a blank screen.

I can't complain but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far.

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Reply #92 - Oct 18^th, 2013 at 12:12am

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I may have poorly stated my last post, but, there does seem to be a humor deficit in your views towards genre films.

And, even with some of the things the MST3K crew does nothwithstanding, it's not all about mocking and putting down. The best times at the Marathon are when the crowd is having fun WITH a movie. REPTILICUS this year is a good example. It wasn't just ripping it for being bad, it was just enjoying a good-natured time with a schlocky B-movie. Something like BATTLEFIELD EARTH or SOUND OF THUNDER were misguided attempts to book stuff that were just thuddingly bad - and NOT fun OR enjoyable.

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Reply #93 - Oct 18^th, 2013 at 12:23am

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Well, that's not the stuff I see (terribly) previewed at the theaters. Still, as much as a good chunk of the room might like that stuff roughly 1000% more than I do, it'd suck if that was the way someone saw a movie for the first time.

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Reply #94 - Oct 18^th, 2013 at 1:01am

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L.A. Connection wrote on Oct 18^th, 2013 at 12:12am:

I may have poorly stated my last post, but, there does seem to be a humor deficit in your views towards genre films.

Why just genre films? Why not say I've got a humor deficit toward dramas, documentaries, or romantic comedies? I've got the same expectations for them that I have for genre films, but they're not considered adorable when they fall short in basic ways.

L.A. Connection wrote on Oct 18^th, 2013 at 12:12am:

it's not all about mocking and putting down. The best times at the Marathon are when the crowd is having fun WITH a movie. REPTILICUS this year is a good example. It wasn't just ripping it for being bad, it was just enjoying a good-natured time with a schlocky B-movie. Something like BATTLEFIELD EARTH or SOUND OF THUNDER were misguided attempts to book stuff that were just thuddingly bad - and NOT fun OR enjoyable.

Honest question -what's the difference between them aside from whether you first encountered them on a UHF station as a kid or by paying $9+ as an adult? Is it an uncanny valley thing where the newer ones show enough basic technical competence and bland-but-not-awful performances that the areas where they stink stand out, or just being kind of patronizing because that's the best they could do back then (except for when it wasn't)?

Like I said before - I don't enjoy laughing at a movie's shortcomings, and honestly, most of the "classic schlock" I see isn't really outlandish enough to get me to laugh in astonishment the way, say, a crazy Hong Kong action movie does.

(Oh, and I don't know how anyone can read what I write about the likes of Young Detective Dee or White Dragon or even stuff like Mismatched Partners and think I don't have a sense of humor about genre movies. I sometimes feel like a broken record saying that they have major problems and iffy acting but are so loopy, energetic, and creative as to be worth a recommendation.)

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Reply #95 - Oct 18^th, 2013 at 8:04am

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Quote:

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Jay Sever:
I just don't get any pleasure out of watching bad movies for the express purpose of mocking them...

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...there does seem to be a humor deficit in your views towards genre films

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Jay Sever:
I don't enjoy laughing at a movie's shortcomings...they're not considered adorable when they fall short in basic ways.

I take it that if Jay were programming the Marathon, that special experience that was "Lady Terminator" would never have happened. Wink

Wink

"If you don't find a rabbit wearin' lipstick amusing, then we ain't got nothin' to say to each other." -Bugs Bunny

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Reply #96 - Nov 23^rd, 2013 at 1:38am

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Jay Seaver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 10:41pm:

And they're pretty sure to be running it again in November. The print will at least be easy to track down - it is the Brattle's - but no need to play something almost certain to have played locally twice in the past year.

The Brattle schedule has come out and they don't appear to be running it any time between now and early January and since I doubt the majority of people who attend the 'thon were all present for the Brattle showing, I think it's a solid choice.

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Reply #97 - Dec 17^th, 2013 at 12:48am

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Okay since official selections for SF39 are coming in maybe it's time for me to throw out some suggestions.

From the Terrorthon because of they great 35mm prints.
Buckaroo Banzai (bonus because of it being a foreign print)
Forbidden Planet
Westworld

I'm still going with robots being a theme this time so these two are robots still unseen at a marathon.
Colossus Of New York
Tobor The Great (or maybe the unsold pilot show Here Comes Tobor which seems to be public domain)

The Creature From The Black Lagoon (last of the fifties classics we've yet to show)

The Slime People
Land Unknown (both good schlocky films)
Damnation Alley (maybe find a print with its gimmick 'Sound 360')
Fiend Without A Face
The Abominable Dr Phibes
Gorgo
Rollerball (the original one of course)
They Live
The Rocketeer
Sunshine (I'd never heard of it till it started showing up in some "Good SF films you've never seen" lists)

Thinking outside the box there's these titles
Casino Royale (the 60's spoof one)
It Came From Hollywood
Cabin In The Woods
Watchmen

And these interesting and fun documentaries
Men In Suits (about men who wore monster costumes in films)
Comic-Con; Episode IV, A Fan's Hope
And some older ones
The Atomic Cafe
Gizmo (saw this at the Welles)

I can't complain but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far.

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Reply #98 - Dec 17^th, 2013 at 1:20am

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Some good ones there.

I'm pushing for WESTWORLD - still cannot believe it has never shown.

A 35mm print of DAMNATION ALLEY exists (info was passed along), but I don't think it has 360 sound!

Wow! GIZMO haven't thought of that title in DECADES!

da_Bunnyman wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 12:48am:

Okay since official selections for SF39 are coming in maybe it's time for me to throw out some suggestions.

From the Terrorthon because of they great 35mm prints.
Buckaroo Banzai (bonus because of it being a foreign print)
Forbidden Planet
Westworld

I'm still going with robots being a theme this time so these two are robots still unseen at a marathon.
Colossus Of New York
Tobor The Great (or maybe the unsold pilot show Here Comes Tobor which seems to be public domain)

The Creature From The Black Lagoon (last of the fifties classics we've yet to show)

The Slime People
Land Unknown (both good schlocky films)
Damnation Alley (maybe find a print with its gimmick 'Sound 360')
Fiend Without A Face
The Abominable Dr Phibes
Gorgo
Rollerball (the original one of course)
They Live
The Rocketeer
Sunshine (I'd never heard of it till it started showing up in some "Good SF films you've never seen" lists)

Thinking outside the box there's these titles
Casino Royale (the 60's spoof one)
It Came From Hollywood
Cabin In The Woods
Watchmen

And these interesting and fun documentaries
Men In Suits (about men who wore monster costumes in films)
Comic-Con; Episode IV, A Fan's Hope
And some older ones
The Atomic Cafe
Gizmo (saw this at the Welles)

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Reply #99 - Dec 17^th, 2013 at 8:10am

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i want "being john malkovich" and "ed wood"

PANTS UP. DON'T LOOT.

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Reply #100 - Dec 18^th, 2013 at 1:15am

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kirok wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 8:10am:

i want "being john malkovich" and "ed wood"

Two more good choices. though tough to argue that Malkovich is Sci-Fi.
Ed Wood would be greatsince it is about the making of 2 of the worst films ever made while at the same time making us care about the people making them.

I can't complain but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far.

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Reply #101 - Dec 18^th, 2013 at 1:20am

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L.A. Connection wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 1:20am:

Some good ones there.

I'm pushing for WESTWORLD - still cannot believe it has never shown.

A 35mm print of DAMNATION ALLEY exists (info was passed along), but I don't think it has 360 sound!

Wow! GIZMO haven't thought of that title in DECADES!

It's still pretty funny and available on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaVwqraUKxA

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da_Bunnyman wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 12:48am:

Okay since official selections for SF39 are coming in maybe it's time for me to throw out some suggestions.

From the Terrorthon because of they great 35mm prints.
Buckaroo Banzai (bonus because of it being a foreign print)
Forbidden Planet
Westworld

I'm still going with robots being a theme this time so these two are robots still unseen at a marathon.
Colossus Of New York
Tobor The Great (or maybe the unsold pilot show Here Comes Tobor which seems to be public domain)

The Creature From The Black Lagoon (last of the fifties classics we've yet to show)

The Slime People
Land Unknown (both good schlocky films)
Damnation Alley (maybe find a print with its gimmick 'Sound 360')
Fiend Without A Face
The Abominable Dr Phibes
Gorgo
Rollerball (the original one of course)
They Live
The Rocketeer
Sunshine (I'd never heard of it till it started showing up in some "Good SF films you've never seen" lists)

Thinking outside the box there's these titles
Casino Royale (the 60's spoof one)
It Came From Hollywood
Cabin In The Woods
Watchmen

And these interesting and fun documentaries
Men In Suits (about men who wore monster costumes in films)
Comic-Con; Episode IV, A Fan's Hope
And some older ones
The Atomic Cafe
Gizmo (saw this at the Welles)

I can't complain but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far.

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Reply #102 - Dec 18^th, 2013 at 3:24pm

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I saw GIZMO on PBS. Around that same time a certain other documentary also debuted on PBS - WORLD OF TOMORROW!

In retrospect, I think GIZMO would have played a whole lot better at the Marathon than WORLD did!

(and, I like WORLD. Just not a 'Marathon' movie')

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Reply #103 - Dec 18^th, 2013 at 4:28pm

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In memory of Richard Matheson who died this year - why not a couple of his films? Some have been shown previously and quite a few are not SF. Still, here's a list:

The Incredible Shrinking Man (1957)
Beat Generation (1959)
House of Usher (1960)
Master of the World (1961)
The Pit and the Pendulum (1961)
Burn Witch Burn (1962); a.k.a. Night of the Eagle (screenplay co-written with Charles Beaumont and George Baxt) based on the novel Conjure Wife by Fritz Leiber
Tales of Terror (1962)
The Raven (1963)
The Comedy of Terrors (1963)
The Last Man on Earth ( based on Matheson's novel I Am Legend)(1964)
Fanatic (1965)
The Young Warriors (1967)
The Devil Rides Out (1968)
De Sade (1969)
The Legend of Hell House (based on his novel) (1973)
Les Seins de glace (based on his novel Someone Is Bleeding) (1974)
Somewhere in Time (based on his novel) (1980)
Twilight Zone: The Movie: Fourth segment "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet" (1983)
Jaws 3-D (1983)
Loose Cannons (1990)
What Dreams May Come (1998)
The Box (2009)
Real Steel (2011)

Thars only two possibilities:Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are,or we're the most intelligent life in the universe.Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought-WaltKelly

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Reply #104 - Dec 18^th, 2013 at 5:19pm

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We did do SHRINKING MAN in February. Sadly ironic, yet apropos, that Matheson passed shortly thereafter.

Have lobbied for SOMEWHERE IN TIME since about 1982..............

pogo wrote on Dec 18^th, 2013 at 4:28pm:

In memory of Richard Matheson who died this year - why not a couple of his films? Some have been shown previously and quite a few are not SF. Still, here's a list:

The Incredible Shrinking Man (1957)
Beat Generation (1959)
House of Usher (1960)
Master of the World (1961)
The Pit and the Pendulum (1961)
Burn Witch Burn (1962); a.k.a. Night of the Eagle (screenplay co-written with Charles Beaumont and George Baxt) based on the novel Conjure Wife by Fritz Leiber
Tales of Terror (1962)
The Raven (1963)
The Comedy of Terrors (1963)
The Last Man on Earth ( based on Matheson's novel I Am Legend)(1964)
Fanatic (1965)
The Young Warriors (1967)
The Devil Rides Out (1968)
De Sade (1969)
The Legend of Hell House (based on his novel) (1973)
Les Seins de glace (based on his novel Someone Is Bleeding) (1974)
Somewhere in Time (based on his novel) (1980)
Twilight Zone: The Movie: Fourth segment "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet" (1983)
Jaws 3-D (1983)
Loose Cannons (1990)
What Dreams May Come (1998)
The Box (2009)
Real Steel (2011)

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