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BRAINSTORM 1983 Douglas Trumbull (Read 13367 times)
Nov 18th, 2011 at 7:34pm

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R_F_Fineman wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 9:25am:
Her death occured after the wrap party to "Brainstorm" which has not played since SF-9.

The tragedy overshadowed what I recall was a good SF movie, with a good cast: she costarred with Christopher Walken and the underrated Cliff Robertson. It had a good premise, a memory recording/playback device, which would be retreaded in "Strange Days" (and probably some other titles if we were to put our minds to it.) I have not seen it since anywhere, and a whole generation of moviegoers have no idea that Walken was not always the professional creepy guy or that Natalie Wood actually had a career after the 1960's.

I remember it being a pretty good movie too. It showed up recently on Comcast so I watched it for the first time since the marathon...

Huh

It...has not aged well.

kirok wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 12:58pm:
what kind of wood doesn't float?

Non-witch wood? Lignum Vitae?
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Reply #1 - Nov 18th, 2011 at 8:18pm

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kirok wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 12:58pm:
what kind of wood doesn't float?

Natalie Wood!
 

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Reply #2 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 10:03am

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R_F_Fineman wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 9:25am:
The tragedy overshadowed what I recall was a good SF movie, with a good cast: she costarred with Christopher Walken and the underrated Cliff Robertson.


     You left out Oscar-winning Louise Fletcher!
     I ran this flick in 70mm at the old Cinema 57, where they set the lenses up incorrectly for the format.  Couldnt do anything about it, because it wasnt my booth.


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It had a good premise...


     Actually, it's a pretty bad movie (Trumbull never could direct), but the SFX are top-notch (as you would expect).
     The film was shot in both 35 & 70mm (the latter being reserved for the "brainscan" sequences).


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We'll probably have to put "Brainstorm" down among the titles never to be seen on the big screen again for lack of a print.


     Be great if a 70mm print existed!  Love to run that!
     But the movie still blows....
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Reply #3 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 12:07pm

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Lousie FLETCHER, not Lasser.

I haven't seen BRAINSTORM in quite a while. I found it a pretty invigorating film at the time. I never did see it in 70mm, though.

And, the best news is that 70mm prints have played both in London and L.A. in the past 5 or so years, with the London screening only last year.
 
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Reply #4 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 11:20pm

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L.A. Connection wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 12:07pm:
Lousie FLETCHER, not Lasser.


     Right, right: too many Louises floating around in my head...


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And, the best news is that 70mm prints have played both in London and L.A. in the past 5 or so years, with the London screening only last year.


     Theres a chance that the first phase of the 70 install will begin next month.  Cross your fingers!

 

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Reply #5 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 11:30pm

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Of course running a good movie in 70mm would be even better still.  Brainstorm...


 

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Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 11:30pm:
Of course running a good movie in 70mm would be even better still. Brainstorm...



I'd take Brainstorm over Zardoz. Though maybe a nap or a meal over either.
 

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Reply #7 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 11:57am

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Metaluna wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 11:59pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 11:30pm:
Of course running a good movie in 70mm would be even better still. Brainstorm...



I'd take Brainstorm over Zardoz. Though maybe a nap or a meal over either.


Can we have a Brainstorm costume contest?
 

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Reply #8 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 12:22pm

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Quite curious why folks are so down on BRAINSTORM. It's a pretty well regarded SF film overall. Like I said, I haven't seen it in decades, but I thought it was darn good at the time.
I recall at the time there being a split between critics who saw the film visually and those who seemed to only take it literally. Trumbull, of course, was the mastermind behind the effects of
2001
, and, though not as profound, Kubrick's influence on him is evident. SILENT RUNNING is a flawed film, but it's visuals have a poetry about them.

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Reply #9 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 1:33pm

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zardoz and silent running must reprise at the marathon at some point. brainstorm...meh.
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Reply #10 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 1:34pm

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Caleb451 wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 11:57am:
Metaluna wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 11:59pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 11:30pm:
Of course running a good movie in 70mm would be even better still. Brainstorm...



I'd take Brainstorm over Zardoz. Though maybe a nap or a meal over either.


Can we have a Brainstorm costume contest?

Maybe a recumbent bike race.
 

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Reply #11 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 1:39pm

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L.A. Connection wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 12:22pm:
Quite curious why folks are so down on BRAINSTORM. It's a pretty well regarded SF film overall. Like I said, I haven't seen it in decades, but I thought it was darn good at the time.

I liked it decades ago. Did not like it as much a few months ago. Looks like if you have Comcast it's available to watch online if anyone wants a second look.
 

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Reply #12 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 2:49pm

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I'm not really one to use the term "dated" like its it an expletive. I'm sure the technology isn't up to date, but, like COLOSSUS: THE FORBIN PROJECT, I would like to think the film works on a dramatic level.
I am one who rarely re-sees a film years later and completely flips my opinion of it. Good drama is good drama (or comedy or SF) regardless of advances in special effects, scientific discoveries or social norms. One has to look at the film in the context of when it was made. If you are unable to see movies (or books or music) in that way - it's your loss.

Metaluna wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 1:39pm:
L.A. Connection wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 12:22pm:
Quite curious why folks are so down on BRAINSTORM. It's a pretty well regarded SF film overall. Like I said, I haven't seen it in decades, but I thought it was darn good at the time.

I liked it decades ago. Did not like it as much a few months ago. Looks like if you have Comcast it's available to watch online if anyone wants a second look.

 
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Reply #13 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 3:14pm

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L.A. Connection wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 2:49pm:
I am one who rarely re-sees a film years later and completely flips my opinion of it. Good drama is good drama (or comedy or SF) regardless of advances in special effects, scientific discoveries or social norms.


     Well, sweetie, what if youre someone who thought it blew chunks at the time?  Can that person maintain his opinion?  The story was frail & the denouement was ridiculous, cliched, & eye-rollingly stupid.  In fact, it was almost exactly the same as a similarly dumb SF movie called The Black Hole.


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One has to look at the film in the context of when it was made. If you are unable to see movies (or books or music) in that way - it's your loss.


     Creative works either stand the test of time or they dont.  I'm sick of this crap that you have to look at aging swill like Strangers on a Train in the "context" of the time it was made.  The film has dated.  Badly.
     On the other hand, La Strada is as good as it ever was.
     Brainstorm, I have little doubt, would fail that test!
     Again on the other hand, the SFX probably DO hold up: there were some matte shots in that movie that were so clean, you couldnt tell they were matte shots.  Really impressive technical work.
 

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Reply #14 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 3:22pm

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FWIW, The first time I saw it I must have been about 13 years old. I don't like Bonne Bell lip gloss anymore either.
 

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